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Old February 3rd, 2018, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Government shutdown /highly likely/

"The past six decades or so" seems like a major overstatement to me. A quick look at Democratic administrations over that time period: JFK, who strengthened the social safety net and empowered labor unions by allowing his administration to go after the corruption that was strangling them and may have lost his life for it. LBJ's Great Society was controversial in its time but in retrospect it shored up a lot of what we've become accustomed to taking for granted as part of the social safety net. Carter i won't bother defending but i don't think his failures we due to trying to pursue the opposition's agenda. Then there's Clinton, who achieved massive improvements for the domestic lower and middle classes pretty much unheard of since the days of FDR. Yeah, he caved to Republican interests in most foreign policy issues, and he wasn't able to push through universal health care either, but he also never enjoyed a legislative supmajority nor such a resounding overwhelmingly clear populace-driven mandate to do so.

Then you have Obama, who campaigned on things like universal health care, closing Guantanamo Bay, ending the militarized racist police state, ending the foreign wars....

So i disagree that Democratic administrations over the last 60 years failed because they tried for bi-partisanship. Chop a half a century off and i'll still argue, because i don't think Obama ever wanted to accomplish the things he campaigned on. I think he campaigned on them because he wanted to win. He stabilized the economy, sure, and added some consumer protections that could easily be dismantled later, and the blue collar industries had to pay back every cent they got while the too big to fail banks walked away scot-free.

Bleh. I don't even have the energy right now to give this rant the time it deserves.
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On this topic, the shutdown is over and i saw a shitload of Democrat boosters claiming major victory.

What did they get in return for capitulating? I STILL haven't heard of a single detail that they extorted away from the ruling party in return. I may very well be speaking from a position of ignorance - if so, SOMEBODY please enlighten me.
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Literally, not a single detail of any compromise anywhere i see whatsoever. What am i missing?
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